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09/02/2009

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Tim Kirk

Could 'Hazard Lights' be grouped with the other 'bad puns that normally accompany such commentary'?

will you be attending Hadoop World in NYC on October 2nd?

Rex

You have a typo on the 2nd line of the 4th paragraph.

Chip Hazard

rex - thanks for pointing out. should be fixed now - chip

Chip Hazard

tim - absolutely, i am a big fan of bad puns. dont know if i will be in NYC on the 2nd but will let you know - chip

Peter Cohen,  SaaS Marketing Strategy Advisors

Thanks for the useful insights, Chip. Funding SaaS start-ups is challenging given deferred revenue recognition. Though infrastructure costs can be kept low, sales & marketing expenses can be high - often over one-third of subscription revenue.

Are you finding that SaaS is the default model for software start-ups, and they go with the traditional on-premise option only when it's absolutely required?

Peter Cohen
www.saasmarketingstrategy.com

Dan Croak

Interesting that you highlighted some services that are highly used in the Ruby on Rails community.

As a professional Rails developer, these services are currently the most valuable to me:

Heroku (platform)
Hoptoad (application)
Github (application)
New Relic (application)
S3 (infrastructure)

Maybe coming soon:

Mongo HQ (infrastructure)
Cloudant (infrastructure)

Neal Goldman

One thing that's still missing is the generalized skills, tools and knowledge on how to architect apps that scale.

So, even if the platform that scales is available, if the software that runs on that platform doesn't scale well, the platform's benefit is limited.

I think there's opportunities for startups in consulting, tools and perhaps an alternate kind of platform that can help the enterprise IT folks develop for a scalable cloud, regardless of whether that cloud is public or private. Someone just needs to invent the infinitely scalable mainframe that, from the application's point of view, just has infinite CPU, memory and disk space. Simple, right? :-)

Paul Laskin

Like the article but.. I have to disagree with your comment "...starting a company focused on public clouds offering infrastructure as a service is a fool's errand...". The public cloud offerings (Azure, AWS, and soon Google (if rumor is true) has its place. Many of our customers use AWS, especially startups and small businesses.

We started our company focused on helping the Life Science vertical leverage Amazon's cloud. We soon found that the slope of this vertical was pretty steep and so switched gears and started offering cloud solutions to SMB irrespective of industry. Today we break our customers down into those that primarily use AWS and those that require a cloud on their own hardware or trusted co-lo. For startups and small business the public cloud is frequently the platform of choice. Larger companies tend to go for greater control and opt for the private cloud or even a combination of public/private infrastructure.

I would not discount what can be done in the public cloud and believe that as the technology becomes more main stream the opportunities for startups to build a company focused on delivering public cloud solutions is no fools errand.

Chip Hazard

Paul
thanks for the comment. I agree there is an opportunity for a company focused on public cloud solutions, if you are approaching as it sounds like you are by leveraging the investment being made in the stack by Amazon and others. What is hard, from my perspective, is to expect to build the entire infrastructure stack, hardware on up, as cost effectively as they can. if you want to kick this around further, given me shout...

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